Some more arguments for a local-based treading model over a content-based one:
The format:
(#<DATE URL>)
or(@<DATE URL>)
both makes sense: # as prefix is for a hashtag like we allredy got with the(#twthash)
and @ as prefix denotes that this is mention of a specific post in a feed, and not just the feed in general. Using either can make implementation easier, since most clients already got this kind of filtering.Having something like
(#<DATE URL>)
will also make mentions via webmetions for twtxt easier to implement, since there is no need for looking up the#twthash
. This will also make it possible to make 3th part twt-mentions services.Supporting twt/webmentions will also increase discoverability as a way to know about both replies and feed mentions from feeds that you don’t follow.
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. It’s easier to implement and the whole edits-breaking-threads thing resolves itself in a “natural” way without the need to add stuff to the protocol.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I cases of these kind of “abuse” of social trust. Then I think people should just delete their replies, unfollow the troll and leave them to shouting in the void. This is a inter-social issue, not a technical issue. Anything can be spoofed. We are not building a banking app, we are just having conversation and if trust are broken then communication breaks down. These edge-cases are all very hypothetical and not something I think we need to solve with technology.
no my fault your client can’t handle a little editing ;)
@mckinley@twtxt.net Thanks for the feedback.
- Yeah I agrees that nick sound not be part of syntax. Any valid URL to a twtxt.txt-file should be enough and is more clear, so it is not confused with a email (one of the the issues with webfinger and fedivese handles)
- I think any valid URL would work, since we are not bound to look for exact matches. Accepting both http and https as well as a gemni and gophe could all work as long as the path to the twtxt.txt is the same.
- My idea is that you quote the timestamp as it is in the original twtxt.txt that you are referring to, so you can do it by simply copy/pasting. Also what are the change that the same human will make two different posts within the same second?!
Regarding the whole cryptographic keys for identity, to me it seems like an unnecessary layer of complexity. If you move to a new house or city you tell people that you moved - you can do the same in a twtxt.txt. Just post something like “I move to this new URL, please follow me there!” I did that with my feeds at least twice, and you guys still seem to read my posts:)
The tag URI scheme looks interesting. I like that it human read- and writable. And since we already got the timestamp in the twtxt.txt it would be somewhat trivial to parse. But there are still the issue with what the name/id should be… Maybe it doesn’t have to bee that stick?
Instead of using tag:
as the prefix/protocol, it would more it clear what we are talking about by using in-reply-to:
(https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to) or replyto:
similar to mailto:
(reply:sorenpeter@darch.dk,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)
(in-reply-to:darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)
(replyto:http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)
I know it’s longer that 7-11 characters, but it’s self-explaining when looking at the twtxt.txt in the raw, and the cases above can all be caught with this regex: \([\w-]*reply[\w-]*\:
Is this something that would work?
@prologic@twtxt.net do that mean that for every new post (not replies) the client will have to generate a UUID or similar when posting and add that to to the twt?