Matrix as a self-hosted chat for our family was a mistake. Messages even arrive out of order now …

I’ll have to start looking for an alternative.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci @carsten@yarn.zn80.net I’ll have a look at the current state of XMPP and that list, thanks. 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net I have to confess, I never really had a look at Salty. 🤔 Is it ready for “prime time”? I.e., usable by non-tech users, Android and iOS client, easy upload of images and videos, … ?

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net They hardly care what it is. It should just work. They’re also an WhatsApp, but I refuse to use that. 🥴