@abucci@anthony.buc.ci I understand, yes. JSON files are easier to manipulate with readily available tools. When I used GTS (not anymore, I run Mastodon because I didn’t want to have to wait for client APIs to catch up), I had it with SQLite configured. It was only one file, and I could manipulate it nicely with a bit of SQL knowledge.
@bender@twtxt.net I have nothing against GoToSocial, but:
GoToSocial stores statuses, accounts, etc, in a database. This can be either SQLite or Postgres.
snac
is simpler. Some JSON files and that’s it. I can read them with jq
and less
. I can use tar
to back them up. I can hand edit them in a text editor.
@bender@twtxt.net Yeah
@prologic@twtxt.net oh, I get that. I look at it this way: I prefer email, but I still get snail mail. Each has its use, right?
@bender@twtxt.net GoToSocial is actually great 👍 I’ve run it while testing/devel;ing my first activity pub integration for yarnd
I would run it myself permanently, except that I honestly prefer Twtxt and want to keep Yarn.social alive and moving forward (even if slowly).
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci while mentioning Mastodon simpler alternatives, I think GoToSocial is worth one. :-)
@bender@twtxt.net Cool 😎
@prologic@twtxt.net right. It has the neat visual appeal (without going too much overboard), that could make a remake of Yarn UI better looking. For what I can see it is most feature rich, but haven’t compared them both in excruciating details to be absolutely sure.
That is not to say that Picnic CSS is bad, nor that I don’t like it. In a level of being decently simple, they both are. Bulma just comes across as more polished, that’s all.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Fair 👌
I think @abucci@anthony.buc.ci and @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no are running snac? I didn’t have a closer look at snac (no intention of running it), but if that is a relatively small daemon (maybe comparable to Yarn?) that gives you access to the whole world of ActivityPub, then, well, yeah … That’s tough to beat.
Yes, I am running snac
on the same VPS where I run my yarn pod. I heard of it from @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no, so blame him 😏 snac
is written in C and is one simple executable, uses very little resources on the server, and stores everything in JSON files (no databases or other integrations; easy to save and migrate your data) . It’s definitely like yarn in that respect.
I haven’t been around yarn much lately. Part of that is that I’ve been very busy at work and home and only have a limited time to spend goofing off on a social network. Part of it is that I’m finding snac
very useful: I’ve connected with friends I’d previously lost touch with, I’ve found useful work-related information, I’ve found colleagues to follow, and even found interesting conferences to attend. There’s a lot more going on over there.
I guess if I had to put it simply, I’d say I have limited time to play and there are more kids in the ActivityPub sandbox than this one. That’s not a ding on yarn–I like yarn and twtxt–I’m just time constrained.
@bender@twtxt.net I guess if you’re going to support the choice of Bulma (and the reason for this Yarn in the first place is I’m pretty rubbish when it comes to UI/UX, so I need all the help I can get! 🤣) – You need to help me understand; Is Bulma a better choice because you see “components” it has that may be useful in a new (say) Yarn 2.0? Or is Picnic CSS enough? 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net it is a matter of taste. I see Bulma as more complete.
@bender@twtxt.net @mckinley@twtxt.net If you had to pick between Picnic CSS and Bulma? Which would you choose? 🤔 And why?
Do we have another crack at a Twtxt <-> ActivityPub service?
So… What does a lightweight yarnd
2.0 even look like? Hmm 🧐
Whoo! 😳 We run 5-0
(games) tonight in table-tennis 🎾 My tam mate also won her 2 singles for the first time! 😅 Whoohoo!
@prologic@twtxt.net LOL. A landing “page” with just an image (animated GIF), nothing further. Hopefully that’s not what @aelaraji@aelaraji.com has in mind!
@prologic@twtxt.net you know, wives will always find something they don’t like. I think they did a good job. Wish it was cheaper, but considering the have to redo walls, tiles (floor and shower walls), relocate drain, and water lines, do new floor boards, painting, new cabinets, new toilet, new lights. I mean, it was truly an entire remodeling. Worth it.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Like deebs.net
🤔
I have finally decided on creating a proper… (landing page?) home page or whatever it is for my domain name.
It has been the same eye soar of a blank white page for years now.
And this, is when I had something I wanted to toy with in the background,
otherwise, which is most of the time, to be precise, It wasn’t pointing at anything at all. 😅
Wow three different opinions 🤣
@movq@www.uninformativ.de ahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣
@shreyan@twtxt.net True! And I agree 👌
I’m not sure what the plans are anymore 😢 I still love the simplicity of Twtxt too and I’ve always seen this project as more of an “ecosystem”.
Appreciate the positive kind words, but you’re right, “momentum” has died a lot and I don’t have as much spare time or energy as I used to.
@bender@twtxt.net Ouch! 🤣 Was/Is it worth it? 🤔
36/2 = 18
at 25 Twts per page, that's about ~72% of the search/view real estate you're taking up! wow 🤩 -- I'd be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Yup! And to be fair to @dfaria@twtxt.net this is a general problem.
That only works if you’re a user of said pod right? 🤔 Is this going to be the majority of cases or do we have to also worry about anonymous users (and crawlers/bots) where the “Discover” view is essentially the pods front page?
It somehow reminded me of https://youtu.be/FNE75XznfIE?si=Qw2E9VX9JPSSI70g, I was looking for hidden messages in the letters. :P
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com today I learned! Thank you! I shall use it at work to impress my Arabic speaking friends. Have an amazing week!
@Anthony_Sorace@a.9srv.net I’m getting:
magicclock.c:189 function args not checked: drawclock
magicclock.c:234 function args not checked: drawclock
btw, fixed it myself”
@bender@twtxt.net Oh, That sounds delicious! B’Saha![1]
I’m Glad you’ve had quite the productive! All I remember of mine is three chapters of an old novel at the coffee shop aaand … Now I’m here, in front of a computer. Everything in between is just Blank 😅
[1] B’saha: Moroccan word for “With health!” (a literal translation) usually used as an equivalent for the French expression “Bon Appétit!” but also used as “Congratulation!”
@prologic@twtxt.net sorry to hear that mate. Feel well! 🤗
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com it depends. It was decently busy around here (Yarn)! 🤭
This Sunday (currently 16:46 US EDT) I mowed our lawn, trimmed bushes, blowed the dust, then showered, went shopping, cooked, and just now finished eating steamed rice with chick peas stew, and finely cut spam air fried crispy. Yum! I want more, but got to stop the glutton in me. 😂
@prologic@twtxt.net well, if it is the master bathroom, and you are remodeling it whole, be prepared to dish out a chunk of money. We recently finished ours, and it was in the $28,000+ range. 😬
@prologic@twtxt.net Niche I think. Not a bad thing!
@Anthony_Sorace@a.9srv.net I have a ton of ideas to implement for Plan 9 but I recently discovered http://www.collyer.net/who/geoff/9/ Geoff’s 9k but still didn’t get it to boot on OpenBSD vmm. For now, main problem is the serial console is not working I think. I’ll have to diff with jmk… I think again.
@prologic@twtxt.net It’s always been super niche, but I think in the age of Twitter more people have been looking for free/libre alternatives than these days, because Mastodon is a big thing now and has mostly replaced Twitter. Mastodon is free/libre, lots of instances, lots of communities. I have a feeling that Yarn/twtxt is mostly appealing to us nerds and minimalists.
I still love the core ideas of twtxt. It’s great for hardcore minimalists. Yarn.social is great for people willing to run a server daemon. I still think all of this is a good thing.
We have certainly lost lots of momentum, though. Plus, there appear to be simpler alternatives to full blown Mastodon now. I think @abucci@anthony.buc.ci and @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no are running snac? I didn’t have a closer look at snac (no intention of running it), but if that is a relatively small daemon (maybe comparable to Yarn?) that gives you access to the whole world of ActivityPub, then, well, yeah … That’s tough to beat.
Not sure what my point is. 🤔 For me, it’s easy: I’ll keep using twtxt because all I have to do is host a text file. Dead simple, I love it.
It all depends on what your plans for Yarn.social are. 🤔
If you’re using jenny on Python 3.12, it will spit out a deprecation warning regarding datetime.utcnow()
. This will be fixed in the next release.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de such mental punishment! 😂😂😂
I feel you, buddy. 🤣
36/2 = 18
at 25 Twts per page, that's about ~72% of the search/view real estate you're taking up! wow 🤩 -- I'd be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.
@prologic@twtxt.net I think this would be solved in the short to mid-term by fixing the mute function. Or, maybe, adding a “Hide this user from Discover” button.
Spectre also looks quite good.
@prologic@twtxt.net Bulma looks amazing.
@prologic@twtxt.net Picnic CSS is my favorite one on first glance.
Of the following CSS libraries, which is more appealing to you? 🤔
36/2 = 18
at 25 Twts per page, that's about ~72% of the search/view real estate you're taking up! wow 🤩 -- I'd be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.
@prologic@twtxt.net check the links on this twtxt. You are talking to the void. 😊
@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net Thanks mates. I’m not the only one, @xuu@txt.sour.is does, too. :-)
“Magic Clock” for Plan 9 (and p9p). http://a.9srv.net/src/img/magicclock-p9p.png http://a.9srv.net/src/magicclock.c (man and other info at http://a.9srv.net/src/).
Maybe some kind of option that when enabled will collapse multiple posts from the same feed and only show the top most recent one, with some kind of UI/UX that indicate “N more today…”?
Is Yarn.social dead or just too niche? (uyrrria) 🧐